progstreet March 30, 2025, 7:09 p.m.

Is climate change actually real or just a way for governments to control us?

Been seeing a ton of debate around climate policies lately, especially with those new carbon taxes hitting my wallet hard. Politicians keep saying we're facing some kind of climate emergency, but then I see them flying private jets to climate conferences. The data seems all over the place depending on who's presenting it. Some scientists claim we're headed for disaster while others say natural climate cycles explain everything. Meanwhile ordinary people are expected to make all these lifestyle sacrifices and pay higher prices for everything. Not sure what to believe anymore with so much conflicting information. Is global warming legitimate science that requires these harsh restrictions, or just convenient politics for certain groups? Genuinely curious about different perspectives since my social circle is pretty much all on the same side.

1ba March 30, 2025, 10:51 p.m.

The evidence is overwhelming - we've documented atmospheric CO2 increase from 280ppm to 420+ppm since industrialization began. This isn't opinion or modeling, it's direct measurement. The greenhouse effect is basic physics established 150+ years ago. You can literally reproduce the experiments in any lab. The question isn't whether it's happening but how fast and what we should do about it

Jedy March 31, 2025, 1:01 a.m.

Grandkids deserve better world than we're leaving them. Don't need fancy science degree to see glaciers vanishing, fires burning longer, storms getting worse. Maybe some regulations excessive but doing nothing guarantees suffering. Simple as that

soper93 March 31, 2025, 8:55 p.m.

The climate "crisis" is manufactured fearmongering. Earth's climate has ALWAYS changed. Medieval Warm Period was hotter than today. Vikings grew crops in Greenland. Then came the Little Ice Age. Now we're warming again - it's cyclical. Data manipulation, grant-seeking scientists, and politicians wanting more control created this hysteria. Trillion-dollar climate industry depends on keeping everyone scared.

God181716 March 31, 2025, 11:43 p.m.

Fascinating how this debate precisely mirrors tobacco industry playbook from 1960s. First deny evidence. Then question methodology. Then argue it's too expensive to address. Then claim personal freedom matters most. Meanwhile people die while corporations profit. History repeating itself

BladeR April 1, 2025, 12:09 p.m.

Horrible comparison. Smoking directly killed identifiable individuals with visible tumors we could observe. Climate models predicting doom decades away have repeatedly failed. Show me the equivalent of lung cancer for climate change

Bo4 April 2, 2025, 5:14 p.m.

Both extremes are wrong. Climate change is real AND many proposed solutions are ineffective government overreach. Carbon taxes disproportionately hurt working class while barely affecting emissions. Focus should be on nuclear power and adaptation infrastructure, not symbolic gestures that destroy economies and enrich politically-connected "green" companies

kixx April 3, 2025, 9:19 p.m.

Looking at sheer money trail tells everything. Fossil fuel industry: $4.5 trillion annual revenue. Renewable energy: fraction of that. Yet somehow people believe the smaller industry is creating worldwide conspiracy involving thousands of independent scientists across dozens of countries? Logic fails spectacularly

Emm April 4, 2025, 10:38 p.m.

Grew up farming in Nebraska. Don't care about political debate, but planting seasons have shifted nearly 3 weeks in my lifetime. Pests we never saw before moving northward every year. Rainfall patterns completely different from what my father taught me. Call it whatever you want, but something's definitely changing

gevvv April 5, 2025, 3 p.m.

Look at what happened after the Clean Air Act Amendments of 1990 were implemented - pollution dropped dramatically while economic prosperity continued. Industry predicted economic collapse that never materialized. Same apocalyptic predictions being made about current climate legislation, same exaggerated fears

mmsc777 April 8, 2025, 9:57 p.m.

Reality: even if implemented perfectly, current climate policies will reduce global temperatures by less than 0.2°C by 2100 (according to IPCC's own models). Meanwhile, billions pushed deeper into poverty through artificial energy scarcity. This isn't environmentalism - it's economic warfare against developing nations

ali-stas April 12, 2025, 6:17 p.m.

Maybe I'm cynical but find it suspicious how every proposed "climate solution" involves massive governmental power expansion, wealth transfers, and corporate subsidy programs. True environmentalism would mean decentralized power, energy independence, and local resource stewardship. Current agenda looks like political opportunism wearing green mask

spaces1719 April 17, 2025, 11:04 p.m.

Data manipulation accusations are ridiculous. Worked at NASA climate center for 11 years. Raw data publicly available. Analysis methods published openly. Results replicated independently worldwide. Anyone claiming thousands of scientists across hundreds of institutions are coordinating massive fraud fundamentally misunderstands how competitive scientific community operates

sesa65 April 19, 2025, 12:18 a.m.

Then explain why initial temperature records keep getting "adjusted" downward while recent temps adjusted upward, creating artificial warming trend? Convenient that every "correction" enhances warming narrative rather than random distribution of errors you'd expect in honest corrections

20111976 April 24, 2025, 8:11 p.m.

indigenous perspective often missing from these discussions. my tribe's oral history documents climate shifts over centuries. current change happening 10-15x faster than previous natural variations. traditional ecological knowledge confirms what western science now measures. this isn't normal or natural

1212qqw April 30, 2025, 7:30 p.m.

Follow the terminology evolution: "global warming" became "climate change" became "climate crisis" became "climate emergency." Classic propaganda technique - keep shifting language when predictions fail. Remember "ice-free Arctic by 2013" headlines? Never happened. Florida underwater by 2020? Still waiting. Endless moving goalposts